This is a hurry transcript from “Exclusive Report with Bret Baier,” August 4, 2021. This copy might not be in its final kind and might be up to date.
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Unidentified MALE: Even lifelong Republicans explain to me they appear at Cuomo and they are like, God, there is a leader.
Unknown MALE: You see a stunning political chief emerging from this in Andrew Cuomo.
Unidentified Feminine: Governor Cuomo I feel is one of the heroes on the frontlines.
Unidentified MALE: You spoke to National Guard troops now in a stirring speech that, if I was not listening diligently, I imagined you have been sending troopers off to war.
Unknown Woman: Do you think all this countrywide awareness may well have emboldened him?
CHARLOTTE BENNETT, Previous CUOMO AIDE: Unquestionably. I believe he felt like he was untouchable from a whole lot of ways.
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BREAM: Let us convey in our panel, former instruction secretary Bill Bennett, Amy Walter, nationwide editor for the “Prepare dinner Political Report,” and Bill McGurn, columnist for “The Wall Street Journal.” Let us begin there, Amy. A ton of folks in the media, hear, it feels like a sample that we noticed them so amped up more than Michael Avenatti, we saw them so enthralled by Governor Cuomo, and now they have some actually complicated information to digest.
AMY WALTER, Nationwide EDITOR, “Cook POLITICAL REPORT”: Effectively, ideal, the contrast is what I assume several individuals were being searching at in particular, from the clips that you showed there, was the contrast that they required to have in between then President Trump and White Residence and the difficulty on messaging and getting centered on COVID, versus what appeared like at the time New York executing it nicely.
Of course, we came to discover out that New York truly wasn’t carrying out it specifically well, particularly when it came to nursing residences. And that seemed to be type of the suggestion of the iceberg in this article, or probably in which — I will mix metaphors — where the dam broke, so to discuss. As soon as that investigation begun, and then you began to listen to these allegations about sexual harassment, it all type of snowballed at once. And I do feel that the hubris was a huge piece of what produced this far more challenging for Cuomo, mainly because he seemed to be absorbed in all of it.
BREAM: Invoice Bennett, from what we have listened to every time he has been confronted, and yesterday with this quite thorough investigative report that he authorized by the lawyer common, is that he would not intend to go wherever. We can have a variety of Democrats stage forward and say it’s time for him to resign, he has bought to go. But they know, almost certainly, as he does, he will not intend to do it. So limited of impeachment by the point out lawmakers, the state level individuals up there, I feel he feels fairly insulated.
Monthly bill BENNETT, Former Instruction SECRETARY: Yes. He may adhere to the Invoice Clinton, Governor Northam of Virginia e book.
I want to communicate about the media, as well, but fairly different way. With all thanks respect, the New York-ization of the media, all of the cable, all of the networks are in New York. The rest of us out right here in The us are not all that fascinated, even even though I was born and bred in New York Town, this is not the most crucial factor in the state, and we are acquiring saturation coverage of this.
Now, what he did was at the very least offensive, unwanted, it’s possible criminal. But, once again, an additional level about the media, it’s all about the unwanted sexual advancements, not about what Amy was conversing about — fatalities. No person was raped, no person died on the sexual innovations, but a ton of people died in nursing homes. The moral buy listed here is out of position, and the media is not encouraging us get it in the ideal put.
BREAM: The DOJ said it is really not likely to glance into nursing property deaths or policy underneath the Cuomo administration, so that avenue — there are other folks continuing, but that avenue with the DOJ is now shut. Our superior, very good buddy and colleague, Janice Dean, lost equally of her in-legislation in just a pair of months, she says directly mainly because of all those nursing dwelling policies. This is what she’s expressing about the protection the governor is mounting on these varieties of allegations.
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JANICE DEAN, FOX News: Go in front of these gals who ended up abused by him, assaulted, and declaring it is mainly because they really don’t recognize what I am seeking to do, like I have generally been this way. It is so disgusting. It’s each and every working day that he is nonetheless in power I have to shake my head and say New Yorkers wake up. This person is — he ought to no lengthier be the governor of New York.
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BREAM: So Invoice McGurn, we get a little bit of the exact perception of, hey, these ladies really don’t understand, this is just how I am. Also with regard to the criticism of him on COVID plan, like persons never comprehend what I’m accomplishing. I’m in advance of the curve, I’m doing the ideal matter. You get the perception of hubris from him on either of these incredibly incredibly hot subjects.
Bill MCGURN, COLUMNIST, “THE WALL Avenue JOURNAL”: Sure, Shannon, do you know what a shark is? A shark is basically tooth and cartilage protected by a small little bit of pores and skin. And every little thing which is in his way it decides, is it scaled-down and a lot more susceptible, and if it is, I am heading to consume it. That is been Andrew Cuomo’s politics.
He doesn’t have quite a few good friends in Albany. But what he does have, the New York governor is pretty highly effective, has a enormous say in the distribution of funds, and I believe he is counting on that electricity to get persons to occur above to his facet. You can find a lot of federal funds coming into Albany, and if you hope to get it, I assume he is striving to suggest you superior participate in ball with me, stand up for me. That is his calculation.
I imagine if he believes that he will be impeached and convicted, he will leave on his individual accord, but not until eventually then. He will want to go out under his own electric power if he has to go out, but if he thinks he can brazen it by means of, if he thinks, for case in point, that there will not be adequate votes to convict in the New York Condition Senate, I feel he will stay there. And he will abide by, as Invoice said, the Ralph Northam reserve or anything. Andrew Cuomo is a fighter, and he is not likely to — he is not heading to go down except he has to. And it is one point for the fellow Democrats, it really is simple to get in touch with for an individual to stage down. Let us see if they will back again it up by voting for impeachment and so forth. They want him to action down due to the fact that usually takes all the choices off their plate. It will make it a large amount a lot easier for them.
BREAM: Yes. So, quite quickly, I just want to get a indeed or no from each and every of you. Supplied the ability dynamic in New York that Bill has explained, do you imagine they will really impeach him? Invoice McGurn, get started with you, certainly or no.
MCGURN: I will not feel it will get to that. I believe if he thinks if there is an impeachment, he will leave. So no.
BREAM: Bill Bennett?
BENNETT: I never feel so.
BREAM: All right, Amy?
WALTER: I imagine he is headed that way. And that is pretty unique from where by we were being in Virginia the place there was also a lieutenant governor who was similarly scandal-tarred. That’s not the situation listed here in New York.
BREAM: And the range three in Virginia, the attorney standard there as properly, experienced the all stepped aside, it would have still left a Republican running Virginia, which Democrats were being obviously not in favor of carrying out.
All proper, panel, adhere about. Up up coming standard Democrats versus progressives as we glance forward to the midterm elections.
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BREAM: We are back now with our panel to discuss about the progressive wing of the Democratic Party compared to the establishment, and everything in among. Okay, let’s get started right here. Initial of all, just one of the points that the much more progressive squad backed wing of the bash has truly backed is this extension on a ban on evictions. The Supreme Courtroom has already gotten involved in this, and I want to notice this from “The Wall Road Journal” editorial board says the eviction ban has to conclusion sometime, expressing “5 justices this summer permit the eviction ban stand right until expired. But Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s caveat was the coverage couldn’t be continued without the need of, quotation, “obvious and specific congressional authorization by way of new laws.” Definitely, that failed to materialize. “Mr. Biden could be bending under progressive stress to reinstate the ban. This would be strikingly lawless, as the White Property has admitted.”
So Bill McGurn, how significantly stress is the White Property under to do the bidding of the far remaining progressive aspect of the party?
MCGURN: Nicely, I consider they are below a large amount of strain not just on this but on anything from all the other payments that they are taking into consideration to the Hyde modification and so forth. The progressives may well not be the numerical majority in the Democratic caucus, but they are driving the prepare. It is really Bernie Sanders reconciliation suggestions that are likely to get place via. And glance, we have had average Democrats outlined just before, that the progressives will take on criminal offense and so forth just about cost the election. Nancy Pelosi can only spare a handful of seats.
And what is most instructive about the circumstance you described about the evictions, continuing this, Joe Biden is continuing it even immediately after he admitted he won’t really have the constitutional authority to do that. And just one cause that Nancy Pelosi and so forth want him to do it is I believe they are not confident they have the votes, or they do not want to go on file.
Which is just one of the issues about the progressive experiment, they really don’t want to set it to the legislative examination and go out there and have votes. They would significantly alternatively have government orders and so forth. And I consider that speaks to the deep down fears that a large amount of this stuff is not that preferred.
BREAM: And Invoice Bennet, this will get to the left’s argument through the Trump administration was that he was busting up norms, that he was acquiring things finished by government orders, which the opposing get together is usually likely to have that criticism of the president in power. But they saved talking about how he was heading to eviscerate the way matters labored and the checks and balances and the several responsibilities and obligations and privileges of every single of the branches, and, still, in this article what we continue to see from the significantly remaining is to say, as Bill McGurn pointed out, Okay, if we are unable to get it accomplished legislatively, let’s go via the government department or some other back doorway.
BENNETT: Indeed, and they are getting trouble finding it done legislatively. It is interesting, for the reason that as Monthly bill claims, the energy is certainly on the remaining, and the agenda is staying established by the still left. But they are not able to get a large amount of it as a result of. Element of this is 50-50 in the Senate and a extremely near Property, but part of it also I feel is a large amount of these average Democrats who are quiet.
The primary issue about AOC and crowd is that they’re noisy. They make a lot of noise, so they get a ton of media. Listed here I am yet again on the media. The reasonable Biden people today never make a good deal of noise. But some of these people, a great deal of them I feel are coming to their senses, and they’re saying, wait around a moment, what did we purchase here exactly? We thought we had been buying a average remaining, centrist Democrat, not this male who has been pushing for all this.
And check out the legislative. I would be intrigued to hear what Amy has to say about this, this election primary outcome in Cleveland where the incredibly progressive and pretty well known Nina Turner misplaced to Shontel Brown, who is considerably far more the institution prospect. Is this is a harbinger of issues to appear? And if it truly is not, just hold out and see what comes about if Democrat governors and progressives try to lock down the nation due to the fact of Delta, and moderate Democrats in the middle say, hold out a moment, we tried out that in advance of. It really is not going to come about. Then you will see this fisher convert into a crater, a breaking element of a crater.
BREAM: And Democrats clearly have some inner problems. I want to examine one thing from “Politico.” Is says “for the duration of a closed-door lunch very last 7 days with some of his most vulnerable incumbents, Property Democrats marketing campaign chief delivered a blunt warning if the midterms ended up held now, they would lose the greater part. Consultant Sean Patrick Maloney, a Democrat out of New York, adopted that bleak forecast, which was confirmed by various individuals common with the conversation, with new polling that confirmed Democrats falling at the rear of Republicans by a half dozen factors on a generic ballot in battleground districts.” So, Amy, your response to that dialogue internally and to the Shontel Brown win?
WALTER: Of course, we will start off with Ohio. And seem, it is really by no means a good idea if you are a candidate working outwardly as a Bernie Sanders prospect, endorsed candidate. You bring Bernie Sanders into the district the previous several times of the marketing campaign in a district that not only did Joe Biden win the main, but Hillary Clinton won overwhelmingly in 2016. This is a doing the job course, mainly African-American district exactly where Joe Biden is extremely well known, where by Hillary Clinton was incredibly well-known. Becoming the prospect who has revealed distaste for equally of them publicly wasn’t a wonderful look in a district like that.
I also feel you do see a really massive big difference between the outsiders on the remaining and the outsiders on the ideal. The achievements that a lot of in the Tea Celebration or now we could simply call the Trump wing of the social gathering have experienced in beating the establishment candidates has been considerably greater. They have a a lot greater batting regular than all those on the left likely versus the far more institution types. I consider that there is a misreading by numerous that although the vitality, and Monthly bill manufactured this place, the strength may possibly be on the still left and with those people candidates and the focus that they are finding, they are not automatically where the occasion is. Which is the wager that Joe Biden designed in 2020, and it nonetheless is one particular which is doing the job now.
BREAM: And just one of the reminders that Twitter is not the authentic earth. We all have to remember that.
Ok, when we appear back, tomorrow’s headlines.
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BREAM: Eventually tonight, a search at tomorrow’s headlines. Invoice Bennett, kick us off?
BENNETT: Alright, the secretary of training, incredibly essential occupation, by the way, declared that everyone will be again in school 5 times a week. Great. Except the minor young ones will be wearing masks. Hold out for the mom and dad with pitchforks and torches and mask-much less. When I was the secretary of schooling, even nevertheless I was a conservative Catholic, we taught that the earth revolves all-around the sunlight, like it or not.
BREAM: All suitable, Amy, up up coming.
WALTER: It truly is going to say this — the new Delta variant moreover fears of inflation are having a poll on President Biden’s approval rankings. We’ve experienced 3 polls out in these last handful of days, all exhibiting a slight dip in his general acceptance score, and a bigger dip in approval of his dealing with of COVID and the overall economy.
BREAM: Super swift from you, Bill.
MCGURN: Taliban environment up Joe Biden for an embarrassing 9/11. That anniversary is very likely to uncover the Taliban saying see, we informed you the Us residents did not have the belly for the prolonged haul, and we had been correct.
BREAM: Thank you, Bill.
That is it for Particular REPORT. On to Ben Domenech now for PRIMETIME.
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